oa-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 13 and 14 Today's Topics: RE: HELLO [ "Gerry Stormer" ] [OA] Thanks! [ "Shawn Fumo" ] Re: [OA] Hello! [ "Andrew Crawford" ] [OA] OA on DMOZ [ "Shawn Fumo" ] [OA] [ "Erik & Ingrid" ] [OA] A New Page [ "Magda A Jonikas" ] Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:41:40 -0500 From: "Gerry Stormer" To: "OA Maillist" Subject: RE: HELLO Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0169F.C3ABC800" Shawn, Thanks for the information about the design program. Looks interesting and I'm sure many, if not all, on the OA maillist will enjoy taking a look at it. Now, to answer your question: My main question right now though... do you have any advice on the folds? That is by far the most difficult part... I use the pinhole method to cut my cards and it works perfectly for the folds too. Make a copy of the pattern and attach it to the card stock using the method of your choice. I use a metal clip that you can see here with the rest of the tools I use. Once it's firmly attached "punch" all the valley folds so tiny holes appear on the back of the card stock. Once you've punched all the valley fold lines, turn the card stock/pattern over and score all the valley fold lines. I prefer half-cutting my fold lines because it helps immensely folding the card. Once you've scored all the valley fold lines, turn the card stock/pattern over and punch all the mountain fold lines. Once you're finished with those folds, punch the rest of the pattern and then remove the pattern from the card stock. Next, following the pattern, score all the mountain fold lines on the FRONT of the card stock. Once again, I prefer half-cutting these folds. Once you've scored all your mountain folds, you're ready to cut the pattern. Cutting through the punches should make them completely invisible so you don't have to worry about the final outcome of your card. I think you'll find scoring the fold lines makes the folding process much easier especially if you choose to use the half-cut method. Sometimes, using tweezers or any other tool isn't a bad idea to help get some of the more difficult folds started. If you have any more questions just let me know. Gerry Stormer gstormer@home.com http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/HobbyCt/gstormer/ Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 21:14:45 -0400 From: "Shawn Fumo" To: oa@evermore.com Subject: [OA] Thanks! Message-ID: <39B56245.18600.18EBC0E@localhost> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Just wanted to give a big thanks to everyone that responded to my message (5 people!). I just made a new model, and actually seems good enough that I'd give it to someone (even though it could probably use some backing and such). I printed out the design. Used some semi-thick white construction paper. Used paper clips to hold it together, poked holes with a pin. Then I did the half-cuts on each side for the folds and then the regular cuts (all over newspapers...hehe). So, I have to say the cutting really helped... I was doing the Babel model from here (is also animated at the top): http://www.multimania.com/baudbui/plier/plier.htm The stairs were a lot smaller than the design that I made up, and I seriously doubt I could have folded it very well, if at all, the way I was doing it before. Right now I'm trying to track down my real x-acto knife instead of this old retractable blade thing that is probably more for opening up boxes than artistic stuff...hehe I'll also see about the burnishing type of thing, even though the cutting seems to work well (would the burnishing maybe have it last longer as you haven't weakened the fold lines so much?). My only concession for the Babel model was having the arches for the doors triangular instead of rounded. I didn't want to push my luck too far...hehe. So, I'll probably try responding to some of the e-mails since there was a lot of more personal stuff that'd be neat to talk about. But I go back to college tomorrow and I'll probably get distracted, so wanted to say this to the list at least. =) Oh, and I added two models to my page. One is a possible design for school (STCC is the college and MM is for multimedia department. Most of the people graduated last year also and MM=2000 in Roman if memory serves, so the whole marble stair type thing maybe matches that). I think I'll try to make the letters a little less blocky though, at least for the Ms. The other one was my recreation of the Stage model that I saw a picture of on one of the sites. Since it was basically blocky, seemed ideal to recreate in the program. I'm sure it isn't exactly the same, but I think it is pretty close... I also stuck in the program files for them... Not that they are really awe-inspiring enough for people to be fussing with yet , but might as well... ;) http://www.the-spa.com/shawn.fumo/hobbies/oa/ Take care and thanks again! Shawn ------- shawn.fumo@the-spa.com http://www.the-spa.com/shawn.fumo/ ------- Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 23:23:31 -0700 From: Andrew Crawford To: oa@evermore.com Subject: Re: [OA] Hello! Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000905232320.02d6d3b0@mail.phnx.uswest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:14 PM 9/5/2000 -0400, you wrote: >Just wanted to give a big thanks to everyone that responded to my >message (5 people!). 6 :) >The other one was my recreation of the Stage model that I saw a >picture of on one of the sites. Since it was basically blocky, >seemed ideal to recreate in the program. I'm sure it isn't exactly >the same, but I think it is pretty close... That was probably mine. "White Stage" is one of Professor Masahiro Chatani's designs. It was featured in an article on OA in Omni magazine some years ago. At 01:00 AM 9/4/2000 -0400, you wrote: >I discovered that 3D Card Maker program... It is of course limited >compared to the complicated and rounded shapes and things I've >seen, but it is fun to fuss with, and it seems like a great learning >tool to see how this stuff works. > >I haven't seen it mentioned in the archives, so in case anyone has >missed it: >http://www.page.sannet.ne.jp/jun_m/card3d/index-eng.html I hadn't seen it. Thank you! Very cool. >My main question right now though... do you have any advice on >the folds? That is by far the most difficult part... I use a variation on the Gerry Stormer's half-cut method. I print a copy of the pattern and attach it to heavier paper that will become the actual card using drafting tape. I have a translucent cutting mat on my light table so I can see the pattern through the paper. I cut with a scalpel (#11 blades) and use the back side of the scalpel to score the folds - each on the reverse side from the direction of folding. The back of the scalpel is actually fairly sharp and accomplishes a half-cut with lower risk of cutting too deep (especially on lighter weight papers.) >Oh, and I am an editor at the DMOZ directory. I noticed there are >two OA sites in the Origami category, but I think it could use its >own category. I e-mailed the Origami editor about it, and will see >what happens. If he creates it, then perhaps I can become the >editor and add in all the other sites I've been seeing lately... That would be great. I think the listing on my site is fairly complete (for public sites, anyhow.) I actually updated it recently, adding a few (including the link to Jun Mitani's page you provided.) If you know of any others or anyone out there has a site that I don't have listed (that you want listed,) let me know! http://oa.evermore.com/exit.php3 >I'd like to believe you can never have too many hobbies, but I am >starting to wonder. The internet just makes it too tempting to try to >learn everything... =) Agreed! >So, I am really glad I found out about this hobby, and this mailing >list. I haven't been exactly high in the funds department lately, and >making OA cards seems like a wonderful gift to give... > >Take care! >Shawn We're glad you found us, too. Welcome. Andrew Crawford Andrew@Evermore.com Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 05:35:13 -0400 From: "Shawn Fumo" To: oa@evermore.com Subject: [OA] OA on DMOZ Message-ID: <39DD6491.16711.1425999F@localhost> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hey there, got this put up a little bit ago, but keep forgetting to mention it: http://dmoz.org/Arts/Crafts/Origami/Origamic_Architecture/ Everyone still out here? Haven't heard anything from the list in quite a while now... Take care, Shawn =) ------- shawn.fumo@the-spa.com http://www.the-spa.com/shawn.fumo/ ------- Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 12:29:42 +0200 From: "Erik & Ingrid" To: Subject: [OA] Message-ID: <000001c02f80$56c45280$86488418@a2000.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Shawn, Yep, still out here and going strong. Thanks very much for the sites about OA. Greetings, Ingrid. Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 23:12:24 -0700 From: Magda A Jonikas To: oa@evermore.com Subject: [OA] A New Page Message-ID: <20001010.231227.-189289.0.magdaj@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I've just put up a web site with some pictures of the origamic architecture I've designed and built. Please take a look at it and tell me what you think. www.geocities.com/origamic_architecture Thanks, Magda