[OA] Re: 180 degree [OA] Re: 180 degree Re: [OA] Re: 180 degree [OA] Ink It! Re: [OA] Ink It! [OA] Thanks to Andrew & re Henzo Glue Re: [OA] Henzo Glue [OA] New OAer Seeking Patterns & Instructions [OA] Stairs [OA] Re: Help ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jenny Rolfe" To: oa@deepwizardry.com Subject: [OA] Re: 180 degree Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 15:58:29 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Reply-To: oa@deepwizardry.com I am new to origamic architecture and have not as yet got hold of any pattern books, I have mainly been creating patterns from pictures of completed models that I have seen. Some of the models have me stumped though, the ones that seem to stand alone on the page with no sign of where they sprang from, the chrysanthimum (is that how you spell it?) for one, are there several pieces of card involved or is it something that I am not seeing in the photographs, if anyone could help me out I would be very grateful jenny ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-From_: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Sun Sep 26 10:49:50 1999 From: "Gerry Stormer" To: oa@deepwizardry.com Subject: Re: [OA] Re: 180 degree Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 12:49:43 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Reply-To: oa@deepwizardry.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Jenny Rolfe To: oa@deepwizardry.com Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 9:58 AM Subject: [OA] Re: 180 degree I am new to origamic architecture and have not as yet got hold of any pattern books, I have mainly been creating patterns from pictures of completed models that I have seen. Some of the models have me stumped though, the ones that seem to stand alone on the page with no sign of where they sprang from, the chrysanthimum (is that how you spell it?) for one, are there several pieces of card involved or is it something that I am not seeing in the photographs, if anyone could help me out I would be very grateful jenny Jenny, The 180º pop-ups are accomplished with the use of string. These cards require a number of individual pieces cut and then fitted together to form a whole. Once this is finished, the pattern will instruct you where to attach the strings. They are attached using Japanese rice paper which is almost invisible. The strings are then fed through the base sheet to the underside where they are taped, glued etc. to they will remain in place. Once all the strings are secured another base sheet is placed over them to hide them from view. This is how these cards work and it's quite amazing to see them pop-up. I hope this helps. If it doesn't fully explain your question please let me know. Gerrry Stormer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-From_: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Sun Sep 26 11:05:59 1999 From: "Jenny Rolfe" To: oa@deepwizardry.com Subject: Re: [OA] Re: 180 degree Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 18:54:23 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Reply-To: oa@deepwizardry.com cor, no wonder I couldn't work out how they were done just by looking at the pictures! I think I'll stick to the 90 degree stuff for a little longer then ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerry Stormer To: oa@deepwizardry.com Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [OA] Re: 180 degree ----- Original Message ----- From: Jenny Rolfe To: oa@deepwizardry.com Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 9:58 AM Subject: [OA] Re: 180 degree I am new to origamic architecture and have not as yet got hold of any pattern books, I have mainly been creating patterns from pictures of completed models that I have seen. Some of the models have me stumped though, the ones that seem to stand alone on the page with no sign of where they sprang from, the chrysanthimum (is that how you spell it?) for one, are there several pieces of card involved or is it something that I am not seeing in the photographs, if anyone could help me out I would be very grateful jenny Jenny, The 180º pop-ups are accomplished with the use of string. These cards require a number of individual pieces cut and then fitted together to form a whole. Once this is finished, the pattern will instruct you where to attach the strings. They are attached using Japanese rice paper which is almost invisible. The strings are then fed through the base sheet to the underside where they are taped, glued etc. to they will remain in place. Once all the strings are secured another base sheet is placed over them to hide them from view. This is how these cards work and it's quite amazing to see them pop-up. I hope this helps. If it doesn't fully explain your question please let me know. Gerrry Stormer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-From_: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Mon Sep 27 20:31:38 1999 X-Sender: andrew@evermore.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 19:48:57 -0700 To: oa@deepwizardry.com From: Andrew Crawford Subject: [OA] Ink It! Sender: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Reply-To: oa@deepwizardry.com Greetings! I spent a little time with OA this weekend, beyond setting up the list. A friend of mine and her mom just opened a new paper arts store in Gilbert, AZ (Ink It!) I haven't quite convinced them to stock all of Chatani-san's books, yet but, I did make a quick OA of their logo for the grand opening. It's nothing wildly exciting but, there's a picture of it up, along with other images from the grand opening (including a 2-node QuickTimeVR immersive panorama, one of my other hobbies.) http://www.deepwizardry.com/temp/19990925/ I think I have them about convinced to carry the Henzo glue for me. Anyhow, I thought I would share! :) Andrew Crawford Andrew@Evermore.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-From_: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Mon Sep 27 21:13:45 1999 From: "Gerry Stormer" To: oa@deepwizardry.com Subject: Re: [OA] Ink It! Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:12:14 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Reply-To: oa@deepwizardry.com Thanks for sharing Andrew!!! The OA is great...very unique design that's for sure. Glad to hear about the source for Henzo glue but keep working on them about the pattern books. ;-) The Quick Time panorama is excellent...looks like a great place. Gerry Stormer gerrys@spiff.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Crawford To: oa@deepwizardry.com Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 9:48 PM Subject: [OA] Ink It! > Greetings! > > I spent a little time with OA this weekend, beyond setting up the list. A > friend of mine and her mom just opened a new paper arts store in Gilbert, > AZ (Ink It!) I haven't quite convinced them to stock all of Chatani-san's > books, yet but, I did make a quick OA of their logo for the grand > opening. It's nothing wildly exciting but, there's a picture of it up, > along with other images from the grand opening (including a 2-node > QuickTimeVR immersive panorama, one of my other hobbies.) > > http://www.deepwizardry.com/temp/19990925/ > > I think I have them about convinced to carry the Henzo glue for me. > > Anyhow, I thought I would share! :) > > Andrew Crawford > Andrew@Evermore.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-From_: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Mon Sep 27 21:45:28 1999 From: KSelena@aol.com Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 00:45:12 EDT Subject: [OA] Thanks to Andrew & re Henzo Glue To: oa@deepwizardry.com X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 25 Sender: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Reply-To: oa@deepwizardry.com First, a big thanks to Andrew for launching this OA MailList. It's been something I've been hoping for a long time that the online OA community would be able to do and now it's here! Second, as a onetime major proponent of Henzo glue, I feel I must add an update regarding my change of heart about this product. While I still like it's many terrific qualities -- non-warping, ease of application, rubber cement-like clean up, archival -- I have found over time that this may not be the best glue for OA. I've found that after a while, particularly with humidity, the glue comes "unstuck." Sometimes this can be a positive thing -- e.g., a string on a 180° card comes loose and you need to remove the base to fix it -- but most of the time, it can be a major hassle to have the card come apart. And if you give the card to someone -- esp. a non-OA'er -- it's not so wonderful if the card becomes unglued after a while, especially as a lot of people enjoy displaying these paper sculptures. This is particularly not good as the glue yellows after a while and you see an unpleasant bunch of yellow glue streaks on the inside of the card. I believe Henzo is designed for use with photos and I think it is well suited for that use. Although not all of my cards with Henzo have come apart, enough of them have for me to switch to another glue which I am now recommending. That glue is the Lineco brand Neutral pH Adhesive. This is a white, liquid glue which dries clear, a 4oz bottle costs around $4.25 USD, although I've seen it for less. It also comes in a larger size, but I've found the 4oz to be easier to hold and work with. I believe the glue is archival since it it neutral pH. Initially I did not like this glue, because I had problems with warping, however after working with it, I found that if I used only tiny beads of the glue, there is no warping problem. Application is pretty easy, just make sure that the hole you make at the tip of the cone-shaped applicator is very small (start with a pinhole-size). I've found that if I keep the hole small enough, apply the right amount of pressure, and keep the bottle moving swiftly on my paper, I get a nice line of beads of glue along the edges I want to stick together (note: apply on only one side to be glued). So far, the Lineco Neutral pH Adhesive has worked fine and is permanent. The one big drawback of this glue vs. the Henzo is that if you get a drop on your card where it shouldn't go, you have to come up with a creative way to cover it up, because you can't just wipe it away pristine as with the Henzo. However, sometimes, a creative solution can improve the card! I think that I might still use the Henzo on OA models for my collection (esp. where I think I might need to adjust strings, etc. at some point down the line), BUT only to glue the model to the base. I would strongly discourage anyone from using Henzo to put together a string OA model, definitely use another glue to adhere strings to the model. With all the work that the string models require, you don't want risk those getting loose or unglued. I would enjoy hearing other comments/feedback on the Henzo, Lineco, or other glues. K. Selena Kim Bridgewater, NJ USA http://members.aol.com/kselena ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-From_: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Tue Sep 28 00:32:13 1999 X-Sender: andrew@evermore.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 00:32:01 -0700 To: oa@deepwizardry.com From: Andrew Crawford Subject: Re: [OA] Henzo Glue Sender: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Reply-To: oa@deepwizardry.com At 12:45 AM 9/28/99 -0400, you wrote: >First, a big thanks to Andrew for launching this OA MailList. It's been >something I've been hoping for a long time that the online OA community would >be able to do and now it's here! Glad to do it! >Second, as a onetime major proponent of Henzo glue, I feel I must add an >update regarding my change of heart about this product. >K. Selena Kim I recently discovered an improved version of one of the things I was using before you told me about the Henzo glue, Letraset's StudioTac dry adhesive. It's supposed to be an alternative to spray adhesives - easier to control, doesn't coat your lungs, etceteras. It comes in sheets. You remove a protective oversheet and put what you want to stick on the sheet and burnish it lightly. Peel it off and then you position the piece where you want it. It is really good for evenly coating all the little bits on a single plane when mounting an OA to a base sheet. It worked fairly well but, I had two major complaints: it was blue, inevitably showing through some papers, and it never fully set. While visiting the local Flax store recently, I found a new product in the line. It's "high-tack permanent adhesive" and it's clear. Any stray bits or excess can be easily removed by rubbing it off with a finger or with mounting putty. I haven't worked with the new stuff enough to know how it will hold up in the long run, yet. I'll keep you posted. Another drawback is the price. It's about $26 for 20 11.5" by 17.5" sheets. It's also available in a 5.5" by 9" pad for a bit less (not sure how much it was.) I haven't been able to find any information about StudioTac's archival qualities (not that I've looked very hard.) They seem to be billing it as a professional solution for mounting things like photos so, I would expect it to be neutral ph. I have yet to try the Lineco adhesive but, am pretty sure I've seen it somewhere recently. Andrew Crawford Andrew@Evermore.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-From_: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Mon Oct 4 19:41:00 1999 X-Sender: andrew@evermore.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 19:53:05 -0700 To: oa@deepwizardry.com From: Andrew Crawford Subject: [OA] New OAer Seeking Patterns & Instructions Cc: "Raveen" Sender: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Reply-To: oa@deepwizardry.com Greetings, I am sending this person the pattern for my Evermon OA (which I will also post on my OA page, eventually.) I don't have patterns for anything else I've done in a presentable format at this point, though. I thought one of you might be able to provide some additional assistance. I have a surface mail address (in the UK) that I have cut out of the message. If you have something to mail, let me know and I'll forward the address off-list. Andrew Crawford Andrew@Evermore.com >From: "Raveen" >Subject: enquiring >Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 17:27:26 +0100 > >To whom it may concern. >I am currently doing a GCSE project at school on Dynamic greetings cards. >In order to achieve a higher grade pass I must construct several cards >which have pop-up in them. If it is possible, could you send me a few >examples of pop-up and instructions of how to make them, e.g Evermon etc. >My details: [Address removed] >I would be MOST grateful if you could send me anything as soon a possible!. >Thankyou. >Yours sincerely > Raveen Sodhi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Delivered-To: fixup-oa@deepwizardry.com@fixme X-Sender: andrew@evermore.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 13:25:13 -0700 To: oa@deepwizardry.com From: Andrew Crawford Subject: [OA] Stairs Sender: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Reply-To: oa@deepwizardry.com Greetings fellow OAers! Thumbing through the Boston Museum of Fine Arts catalog, I stumbled on an exhibition book that appears to have pieces done in the OA style. It's called "Stairs." I have only seen the catalog's picture of one of the 10 pieces in the book, so far. It was originally published in the early 1980s but, sold out quickly. I hadn't seen it before so, thought I would forward the info in case I wasn't the only one. I've added an entry on my OA page ( http://evermore.com/oa/ .) Amazon has it for $17.47. Boston MFA has it for full list ($24.95.) As with the links on my OA page, the link here is an Amazon Associates link that benefits Arizona Aikido. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=1556709633/arizonaaikidoA Rein Jansma & Joost Elffers / Hardcover / Published October 1999 This book contains 10 carefully-crafted pieces representing staircases. Rein Jansma is a well-known architect in the Netherlands and co-owner of the architectural firm, Zwarts & Jansma. Among other projects, his office has designed the Dutch Pavilion at the 1992 World Exhibition in Spain and the expansion of the Rembrandt House in Amsterdam. This is an exhibition book, not a pattern book. Andrew Crawford Andrew@Evermore.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Sender: andrew@deepwizardry.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 01:45:34 -0700 To: oa@deepwizardry.com From: Andrew Crawford Subject: [OA] Re: Help Sender: owner-oa@deepwizardry.com Reply-To: oa@deepwizardry.com Alex, I'm posting this to the OA discussion list in addition to sending it to you. It's a good way to reach a bunch of people interested in OA all at once. Seems like a good discussion for the list, too. At 09:45 AM 11/9/99 -1000, [Alex Husdal] wrote: > > Here are some questions I have to answer..well I do have some answers > > to it, but I think it is nice to know other people's opinion as well. > > > > 1. What is Origami Architecture? Based on what he has written in his books, I think Masahiro Chatani would define origamic architecture something like "creating unique pop-up cards by cutting and folding paper." He distinguishes between 0-degree, 90-degree, and 180-degree OA pop-up cards. I'm inclined to think that the 90-degree variety is the most stylistically distinct and I personally tend to think primarily of those when someone says "origamic architecture." The 90-degree variety of OA cards, with no exceptions I can think of at the moment, are made by cutting and folding a single piece of paper and, aside from adhering them to a backing, do not require glue. There are 180-degree designs that share these characteristics so, I'm not sure categorizing them by how many degrees they open is quite perfect. However, many other 180-degree and 0-degree designs consist of multiple pieces of paper assembled with glue and string. These seem more like "traditional" pop-up cards to me and don't seem to be distinctly OA. So, I guess my personal definition of "origamic architecture" is something like "pop-up cards created by cutting and folding a single piece of paper." > > 2. How old this OA tradition is? > > Sincerely, > > Alex According to the page opposing the contents in "Pattern Sheets of Origamic Architecture," the first exhibition of (Masahiro Chatani's) OA work was in 1982 at the Ginza Matsuya Design Gallery in Tokyo. I've seen several sources (including the first Omni article) indicating that it caught on in Japan around 1983 and in the U.S. around 1985. I believe Chatani-san coined the term "origamic archietcture" so, technically, the "OA tradition" started circa 1982. However, I'm pretty sure there are pop-up card designs that could be categorized as stylistically similar (if relatively simple) to Chatani-san's work that predate 1982. There is also the influence of more traditional origami. I'd love to hear other people's take on this. Is my characterization of the "OA style" complete? Is it too specific? Am I starting to sound like an otaku ("obsessive fan?") :) Andrew Crawford Andrew@Evermore.com